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#9702 - 03/13/08 01:30 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Hammer]
The_Charlton_Guy Offline
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lol...I missed you too...

And forget about the Summer of C.G. Love, I'm making my bones these days being misunderstood and ostracized. Not much love to go around these days I guess.

I have to ask:

Don't you find it ironic that it was Paul A. that ultimately led to your banning at The Corral?

You do know who Paul A. is now, don't you?

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#9703 - 03/13/08 01:36 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Hammer]
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Hammer, did you see that other "Goonchild" thread that got pulled? Do you think this is real or a photoshop job?




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#9704 - 03/13/08 01:37 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: The_Charlton_Guy]
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lol...I missed you too...

And forget about the Summer of C.G. Love, I'm making my bones these days being misunderstood and ostracized. Not much love to go around these days I guess.

I have to ask:

Don't you find it ironic that it was Paul A. that ultimately led to your banning at The Corral?

You do know who Paul A. is now, don't you?


Still don't know for sure! If guessing, first choice is Jan, second choice is Eides. As I was a member there, my IP location should eliminate me as a possibility, although I truly don't know how IPs/ ISPs work to identify members. Some of Paul A's and my posts were pretty close in time, minutes apart and I imagine he had to be posting from a different state than NY.

Then again, I could have had somone else posting as Paul A from far away, but that is far-fetched as a theory I would think.

If you're at liberty, who the hell was Paul A, if you know for sure. Not just their say so.

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#9705 - 03/13/08 01:45 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Shield]
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Hammer, did you see that other "Goonchild" thread that got pulled? Do you think this is real or a photoshop job?





That's the real thing. Remember, I used to post DAILY about CGC blue pabel books that were trimmed. Dozens of them, hundreds of them. I never stopped collecting scans when I see one on the net. I've got one full and almost a second full 250 GB Buffalo storage HDs FILLED with scans of what I believe to be trimmed books in CGC blue labels. Many more stepped in and filled the void left by Ewert, continuing his legacy. Back then, Red's prphetic tip of the iceberg image was a CONSERVATIVE estimate of the angle trimmed blue labels. Two years later... forget about it.

5 times as many and growing. The practice and their existance has grown like wildfire. For every angle trim they catch, they must miss 5. Understandable. It's not easy to catch because of the dynamics of edges. They WERE cut at one time. What's difficult is to determine WHEN they were cut. Certain books are EXCELLENT candidates for angle trims. The ones that are, are given the treatment, and it's obvious to me anyway.

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#9706 - 03/13/08 01:46 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Hammer]
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If you're at liberty, who the hell was Paul A, if you know for sure. Not just their say so.


I'm always at liberty, you know that...

Your second choice is on the mark.

I am 99.99% certain that "Paul A." is Greg Eides.

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#9707 - 03/13/08 01:46 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Hammer]
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Hammer, did you see that other "Goonchild" thread that got pulled? Do you think this is real or a photoshop job?





That's the real thing. Remember, I used to post DAILY about CGC blue pabel books that were trimmed. Dozens of them, hundreds of them. I never stopped collecting scans when I see one on the net. I've got one full and almost a second full 250 GB Buffalo storage HDs FILLED with scans of what I believe to be trimmed books in CGC blue labels. Many more stepped in and filled the void left by Ewert, continuing his legacy. Back then, Red's prphetic tip of the iceberg image was a CONSERVATIVE estimate of the angle trimmed blue labels. Two years later... forget about it.

5 times as many and growing. The practice and their existance has grown like wildfire. For every angle trim they catch, they must miss 5. Understandable. It's not easy to catch because of the dynamics of edges. They WERE cut at one time. What's difficult is to determine WHEN they were cut. Certain books are EXCELLENT candidates for angle trims. The ones that are, are given the treatment, and it's obvious to me anyway.


Weren't you the one that dropped the Batman #11 and Ewert trimming bombs?

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#9708 - 03/13/08 01:59 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Shield]
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Hammer, did you see that other "Goonchild" thread that got pulled? Do you think this is real or a photoshop job?





That's the real thing. Remember, I used to post DAILY about CGC blue pabel books that were trimmed. Dozens of them, hundreds of them. I never stopped collecting scans when I see one on the net. I've got one full and almost a second full 250 GB Buffalo storage HDs FILLED with scans of what I believe to be trimmed books in CGC blue labels. Many more stepped in and filled the void left by Ewert, continuing his legacy. Back then, Red's prphetic tip of the iceberg image was a CONSERVATIVE estimate of the angle trimmed blue labels. Two years later... forget about it.

5 times as many and growing. The practice and their existance has grown like wildfire. For every angle trim they catch, they must miss 5. Understandable. It's not easy to catch because of the dynamics of edges. They WERE cut at one time. What's difficult is to determine WHEN they were cut. Certain books are EXCELLENT candidates for angle trims. The ones that are, are given the treatment, and it's obvious to me anyway.


Weren't you the one that dropped the Batman #11 and Ewert trimming bombs?


Yes. And many others, some that soon proved to be trimmed because someone found the before photo (I never needed the before photo to be sure). Some that later on proved to be on various lists as possible candidates.

Ironically, it's easier to detect angle trim with an axis as a referncing point. My eyes must be very sensitive to this. I can nail trimmed books in slabs with more accuracy than raw books without rail reference. I'm very sensitive to how an angle trimmed book fills the well. It's relationship to the well walls at key points along the twin axis. How a normally produced cut SHOULD look and how a book that has been angle manipulate DOES look when referenced alongside rails positioned 90 degress biased.

That's how I caught Ewert's books and thousands of others since that time that I'm sure have had similar treatment with subtle individual differences due to the style and tools used to acheive the angle trim. There's at least foive different guys doing different work along these lines using ang;e trim tactics each with a subtle difference, a "signature" that identifies the work of each one.

And you don't need the book in hand to tell. It's all in the angles and from the way these edges tail in and out, using the rails as constants, it's easy for my eye to tell what's naturally produced and what's aftermarket trim.

Key point here: being that the RAILS of the well give it away, raw scans are MORE DIFFICULT to tell trim from slabbed books and although I can make educated guesses on raw scans, my determination on them is nowhere near as proficient as slabbed and involve more guesswork.

I laid this all out on one of the forum years ago speaking about edge configurations. What was anatomically impossible and what wasn't. Angle trim is definitely CGC's Achilles heel and THAT, not pressing, is the hardest thing to determine with accuracy for most graders.

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#9709 - 03/13/08 02:12 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: The_Charlton_Guy]
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If you're at liberty, who the hell was Paul A, if you know for sure. Not just their say so.


I'm always at liberty, you know that...

Your second choice is on the mark.

I am 99.99% certain that "Paul A." is Greg Eides.


I've seen the Jan threads, which is why the ranting about good vs. evil sounded very similar in style. If the posts were coming from PA., specifically the Pocono area, my first choice for Paul A is still Jan. DD is the itch that she just can't scratch. She's inexwhoreably drawn to any posts perceived by the general hobby as DDs, like a moth to a flame. Same usual banter about DD sleeping with his mother, wigs, my "pot-belly", and the usual malarkey.

If it truly was "Bonehead", the man who said "no thank you" the man who dropped the third called strike 300,000 times, he was being coached by Jan. Bad move. From reading his posts on the CGC forums, if they are his, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

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#9710 - 03/13/08 02:12 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: Hammer]
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And please mention to Elrod that I'll be waiting for him under the Brooklyn Bridge with:

http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0269-0606-0717-0803_SM.jpg

and

http://www.crafts-gifts.com/peace-pipes/peace-pipe.jpg

He can choose whichever one he wants to use.


Is he still required to wear Prada loafers ?

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#9711 - 03/13/08 02:17 PM Re: If you're SELLING Golden age comics... [Re: chromium]
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And please mention to Elrod that I'll be waiting for him under the Brooklyn Bridge with:

http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM/0269-0606-0717-0803_SM.jpg

and

http://www.crafts-gifts.com/peace-pipes/peace-pipe.jpg

He can choose whichever one he wants to use.


Is he still required to wear Prada loafers ?


If he wants! I have nothing against him. He perpetuates this feud that I've long forgotten about. he's tussling with me in his own mind over nothing. His purple label book is now worth more than what he paid for it 6 years ago. I offered him a refund as soon as I found out about it and he declined. He likes to think his comments bother me but they don't. Supa's harmless and I mean him no harm.

How pissed off would he be with CGC if he suddenly discovered that one out of six of all his blue label CGC books were angle trimmed? S**t happens. Stand up guys make it right when the s**t hits the fan. I never knew until I rad about it and one I did, I offered to make it right. he had no interest in my offer. I still make that offer to him.


Edited by Hammer (03/13/08 02:21 PM)

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